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Muslim Atheism

Muslim Atheism is a theological position in which the disbelief in god, religion and the allegorical, but the instructions for practical living from the Quran are followed.

It is about the Quranic Doctrine on one book of Allah, no god, no religion or sectarianism and no nonsense. It is about Muslim and their practical wisdom for balanced living and the practice of a universal system of life, ie. unconditional freedom of religion and unity within diversity.
Muslim Atheism
Muslim Atheism

Muslim Atheism is a theological position in which the disbelief in god, religion and the allegorical, but the instructions for practical living from the Quran are followed.

It is about the Quranic Doctrine on one book of Allah, no god, no religion or sectarianism and no nonsense. It is about Muslim and their practical wisdom for balanced living and the practice of a universal system of life, ie. unconditional freedom of religion and unity within diversity.
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PostSubject: Issues on the Pillars of Islam?   Issues on the Pillars of Islam? Empty7/7/2014, 11:08 am

Verses relating to the pillars of Islam.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues on the Pillars of Islam?   Issues on the Pillars of Islam? Empty7/7/2014, 11:09 am

Conclusion: Those who i'iqtiqad or creed to disobey (mens rea, guilty mind), and intentionally disobey (actus reus, guilty act) the prohibition in the Quran is not a Muslim.

               IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an.
                         THEN he is a Muslim.
               ELSE he is not a Muslim.

Facts comparision

Who is "Muhammad"?
I believe he is the most righteous person ever lived. He is a True Believer.

               And indeed, you
               are of a great moral character
               (68:4)

But and even if he believe in Allah . . .
               . . . recite shahada perfectly
               . . . knows and speaks well in arabic
               . . . perform salah
               . . . pray in mosque
               . . . pray every night to Allah
               . . . perform hajj
               . . . fasting for his entire life
               . . . dzikr.. and never say bad things about people
               . . . pay zakat and sadaqah all his property in the cause of Allah
               . . . go to jihad and sacrifice himself to Allah
               . . . ponder all verses carefully...
               . . . and you name it, as one of the most righteous person ever lived...

He is not a Muslim if disobey one "simple prohibition" not to eat  that on which Allah's name has not been mentioned

                 And DO NOT eat

                                 of that on which Allah's name has not been mentioned
                                 and that is most surely a transgression
                                 and most surely the Shaitans suggest to their friends
                                 that they should contend with you

                 and if you obey them

                                   you (Muhammad) shall most surely be polytheists (ie. not a Muslim)
                 (6:121)

It is because Allah says "DO NOT" and it doesn't matter if it is small prohibitions. He can be the best Believer, but if he "i'qtiqad" (creed) to disobey Allah... he will not be a Muslim. Being a Believer and a Muslim is two different issues, and Allah only accept Muslim (obedience), with faith.. or without faith.

This is equally true with Prophet Adam AS, he (unintentionally) disobey one small prohibition not to eat from that tree, and he was disqualified from heaven. Therefore, the same rule is equally applied to us because we are not better than Adam AS or Muhammad SAW.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues on the Pillars of Islam?   Issues on the Pillars of Islam? Empty7/7/2014, 11:11 am

One can become a Muslim without believing in Allah.

Being a Muslim is about obedience and not about faith. This is the minimum requirements of becoming a Muslim.

                   The bedouins say, “We have believed.” (about faith, Believer)
                   Say, “You have not believed;
                   but say, ‘We have submitted,’ (about obedience, Muslim)
                   for faith has not yet entered your hearts.
                   And if you obey Allah and His Messenger (ie. the Quran)
                   He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything.
                   Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
                   49.14-15

First Premise

                   When Allah says “You have not believed”
                   It means, “You have not believed” (ie. zero faith in Allah, paradise, hell etc)
                   It does not means, “You have believed”

Someone may insist they have believed (or like those bedouins) but it is not according to Allah.
Therefore it doesn’t matter if they believe or did not believe.
What really matter is obedience to the practical rules from the Quran.

Second Premise

                   When Allah says “You have not believed”
                   and then, ‘We have submitted’

                   It means, there is a distinction between “Faith” and “Obedience”
                   It means, there is a distinction between “Believer” and “Muslim”

These two do not mean the same and human being only accountable for obedience, not faith.
Faith is beyond human control, but obedience is within human control.
“Faith” is within the Allah’s jurisdiction, and “obedience” is within human’s jurisdiction.
There is no blame for what is beyond our control.

                   Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. (2.286)

The whole system in Islam is a "trade system".
We sell our "obedience" (Muslim) to Allah , and Allah pay us with "faith" (Believer)
The more we sell to Allah, the more "faith" we have.

                   You alone we serve (obedience)
                   and You alone we seek for help (faith).
                   (1.5)

Third Premise

                   When Allah says “And if you obey Allah and His Messenger. (ie. the Quran)
                   He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything”
                   and then “Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful”

                   It means, one may enter Paradise even if he does not believe in Allah at all.
                   It can be wrong, but Allah said “Allah is Forgiving and Merciful”.
                   Allah will forgive whatever mistakes relating or arise from “lack of faith”.
                   Muslim shall only concern with their “practical aspect of life”, ie. Deen of Islam.

Accordingly, a Muslim is not necessarily the Muslim as we know today, and . .
Since there is no religion, and all the Books is One Book of Allah
Therefore, those who are good people can enter Paradise as long the follow the rules in the Quran.
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